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8th January 2021 at 11:18 am #52902Mattyrat2027Participant
I looked on a list of Scrabble-eligible words, but none of them matched.
8th January 2021 at 12:54 pm #52904BubbaParticipantThe keyword is in the Official Scrabble Player’s Dictionary. Check the pattern that you are using.
I checked the pattern against the most common ~80,000 English words I only got one match.
When you get it, you will have difficulty in keeping yourself under control!
8th January 2021 at 1:57 pm #52907Mattyrat2027ParticipantThanks @Bubba. When it says that the letters can be rearranged etc… does it mean that in an anagram sense, or can the letters be broken down into 4 other words? I assumed the first, but I am not sure.
8th January 2021 at 1:57 pm #52906CosmiccatParticipantFinally got there with the keyword. Wish I’d read #52770 earlier! Ingenious.
There’s no way I would ever have figured that out that method of mixing the key.
Thanks once again to Harry, Madness and the team for all your hard work in producing a really enjoyable set of challenges.[Thank you too for your enthusiastic support. Harry]
8th January 2021 at 3:54 pm #52909Mattyrat2027ParticipantI’m lost on the keyword. I have tried word finders using the pattern that both I and @F6exb found, but I can’t seem to find anything.
All I need is the starting letter (preferably), or the position of any letter to give me a boost.
Please?
Come on, the challenge is over anyway!
8th January 2021 at 4:35 pm #52910BubbaParticipantWhen it says that the letters can be rearranged etc… does it mean that in an anagram sense
Yes it will anagram to 4 (allegedly) other eight letter English words.
8th January 2021 at 4:57 pm #52911CosmiccatParticipant@Mattyrat2027 I know how you feel it was driving me crazy too.
Once I knew about the Bazeries method for mixing the key I determined the letter order and got the exact same pattern as you guys: EBFGEACD.
I was writing some code for a dictionary compare when I realised the closing line from @Bubba in #52904 is a clue (very good BTW).
Along with the fact there are 4 8 letter anagrams of the word I found it with good old google.
I’m off for a well deserved rest now.
Good luck.8th January 2021 at 5:00 pm #52912PandarranParticipantI have finally cracked the keyword after re-reading through #52770 to help me find the pattern.
I created a program to go through a list of thousands of words and I only got one match so I believe the key pattern to be unique to one word.@ Mattyrat2027 No letter for you yet but keep on searching – by the letters can be rearranged it means there are 4 other unique 8-letter words which can be made from the letters in this word
Thanks to everyone who helped to make this challenge – my team really enjoyed it and we will certainly be back next year
8th January 2021 at 5:10 pm #52913F6exbParticipant@Bubba:
Can you check if we have the same word?
MD5 of F6EXBCODEWORD: 03c50e3390f71f6fbceb1d8e76b3bb90
Tks11th January 2021 at 11:53 am #52915PandarranParticipant@F6exb I have got the same word as you – MD5 of PANDARRANCODEWORD is 60948c7744cede6ddfbe1157c7d1928e
11th January 2021 at 11:53 am #52916MadnessParticipant@f6exb, you have the “official” keyword.
@Everyone, whether the keyword can be anagrammed into 4 or 5 other words depends on your word list. In my word list,
there is even a Latin word stuck in there.Here is the MD5 of the official keyword (all caps, no newline or carriage return): 9e0cb3cf56e7f239f36261a72ce7fe18
11th January 2021 at 11:53 am #52917BubbaParticipant@F6exb MD5 hashes are case sensitive. I tried upper case, lower case and camel case, but My key word hash does not match yours.
I am open to there being more than one option, but of 80k most common English words, I only got one candidate and it fits contextually. Don’t hold yourself back from the quest.11th January 2021 at 8:46 pm #52939The-letter-wrigglerParticipantI posted elsewhere in the forum 3 sets of 4 words (incorrect because I was not sure I needed 4 or 5)
I have since found the five words by converting my 8 letter words dictionary to alpha-words, that is each words LETTERS are put in alphabetical order, then I sorted all those into an alphabetical list order which groups them together.
Then I looked through the list for 5 consecutive alphas that have the same letters.Of course I had to convert the 8 letters back to 5 different words – I used an anagram cracker for that.
If allowed here is the 1st letter of each of the 5 words: R,R,S,T,T
The 1st being the one needed for 7B keyword using Bazeries method.
15th January 2021 at 4:26 pm #52990Mattyrat2027ParticipantThanks to all, @Madness, @The-letter-wriggler, F6exb especially, my team and I finally found the keyword. CODEWORDMATTYRAT2027: 857ebd5981f250f64f9c0c3cbf83842c
15th January 2021 at 5:22 pm #52993MadnessParticipant@Mattyrat2027, you have a match. Good work.
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